Wednesday, December 5, 2007

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Sweet Jesus. Sweet, sweet, here-before-everyone Jesus

According to Jacob T. Levy, Philip Tetlock won this year's Grawemeyer Award for Ideas Improving World Order. Tetlock won for Expert Political Judgment, a book that I blogged about a bit on this hallowed web site (see Rodger Payne as well.).

A key point that Tetlock makes is that experts aren't any better at making political predictions than non-experts.

I bring this up now because it's really, really important to remember that there is hard data confirming Tetlock's assertion when you think about the non-experts in the world. Like, for example, these precious few seconds from The View, courtesy of Crooked Timber's Kieran Healy:

Look, the really important thing -- as I told my son sometime this week -- is that the Star Wars saga took place before anything discussed in the video clip.

Dinosaurs too.

posted by Dan on 12.05.07 at 01:54 PM


Well, Dan, you fail your Christian theology test. The Nicene Creed says, "We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father . . . through him all things were made." He predates the incarnation.

I'm sure that's exactly what she was trying to say.

posted by: arthur on 12.05.07 at 01:54 PM [permalink]

It's about time that 4th century theology scholars received some coverage on daytime tv.

posted by: wph on 12.05.07 at 01:54 PM [permalink]

I think the charitable interpretation is that she's garbling the theological point--see, also, the opening of the Gospel of John--with the historical question about when Christianity, as a religion with adherents, came onto the scene.

posted by: Daniel Nexon on 12.05.07 at 01:54 PM [permalink]

Sure. But that charitable interpretation doesn't, y'know, really help. Since the point at hand is clearly about historical Christians-- thrown to the lions and all-- and since she says many times that nothing predates Christians, the fact that she can't process the difference between Christians and God the ostensible Son, even when pressed on it, doesn't do her any credit.

posted by: Jacob T. Levy on 12.05.07 at 01:54 PM [permalink]

Let's not forget that Sherri Shepherd makes in all likelihood more money than all of you professors and smart people.

You know why? Because she produces more social value than you !

PS. This is almost enough to turn me into a communist. Almost.

posted by: Nick Kaufman on 12.05.07 at 01:54 PM [permalink]

I wish that someone had pressed her about whether there were Jews before Christians.

posted by: arthur on 12.05.07 at 01:54 PM [permalink]

Did Star Wars take place before or after the world was flat?

posted by: Robert Bell on 12.05.07 at 01:54 PM [permalink]

Doesn't her Bible have an Old Testament? Since Jesus doesn't show up until the second half of the book, there has to have been a time before Jesus. OMFG.

posted by: deltaverde on 12.05.07 at 01:54 PM [permalink]

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